tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post7285892229361470475..comments2024-03-09T04:06:47.712-05:00Comments on Abstract Comics: The Blog: Syntactic (?) ComicsAndrei Molotiuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17400106944822618816noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post-24311998665745691402009-04-16T20:24:00.000-04:002009-04-16T20:24:00.000-04:00Hello everyone.
Andrei: well, this is really a de...Hello everyone.<br /><br />Andrei: well, this is really a detail, but I think that there is a difference between the pages I posted here and the one about the circle and the square talking to each other that is reprinted in the anthology. Here, I have drawn ONLY speech balloons and frames, nothing more, and these are syntactical elements of the comics language, while circles and squares aren´t. That is the reason why I proposed to call it a "syntactical comic", but I agree with you that it may as well be called abstract, as it does not depicts anything... It is not very important anyway. <br /><br />Thanks everyone for the nice and interesting comments. I agree with you Jason that one of the strength of comics is this semantic content (or explanation) that the sequence can bring, and I am trying to use this "property" in the pages I posted here.<br /><br />By the way, I can post the rest of the story if you like. I wanted to make a small book with it, but it seems it was refused by the editor, so maybe I´ll put it in Bile Noire, the anthology of the editors Atrabile.Ibn al Rabinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16665229209622941985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post-9757295293500851002009-04-16T13:59:00.000-04:002009-04-16T13:59:00.000-04:00Hey, I'm glad you discovered Ibn / Mathieu by way ...Hey, I'm glad you discovered Ibn / Mathieu by way of that review, Andrei --- since I wrote it! The piece by IaR reproduced in that review is still one of my all time favorite comics.Mark Staff Brandlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09790837634536259781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post-74420772232104090802009-04-14T02:21:00.000-04:002009-04-14T02:21:00.000-04:00= )
great comments here folks!
re:Lax,
i recentl...= )<br /><br />great comments here folks!<br /><br />re:Lax,<br />i recently discovered his work<br />& have been breathing innit...troylloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14706450196335510065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post-59614401945201217432009-04-13T23:11:00.000-04:002009-04-13T23:11:00.000-04:00By the way, that Robert Lax poem is hilarious (and...By the way, that Robert Lax poem is hilarious (and, by that, I mean great - like Warhol's Mona Lisas)!Jason Overbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06950447945934411203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post-18243585932326832892009-04-13T23:08:00.000-04:002009-04-13T23:08:00.000-04:00"Meaning" or content is therefore generated, not b..."Meaning" or content is therefore generated, not by an organization of discrete semantic objects, but through an organic combination of verisimilitude, suggestion, phenomenological aspects, etc. This holistic way of viewing structure is in opposition (I guess) to the notion that the symbols within a strip each have a specific meaning associated with them, and that there's a proper grammar you can use to put these elements together like you would a sentence in 9th grade English or something.Jason Overbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06950447945934411203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post-69303037400120746032009-04-13T22:57:00.000-04:002009-04-13T22:57:00.000-04:00I really like this a lot. The first mini I ever d...I really like this a lot. The first mini I ever did ("I love the smell of X-tol in the morning.") was based on this premise, though it wasn't using the syntactic building blocks in quite the pure manner you are. In fact, in most of the comics I've done I've occasionally used a character to represent myself (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2025/2177362574_eff97e0fdc_o.jpg) that has no relationship to my appearance. One of the strengths of comics is that context has a great effect on meaning so that semantic content can be alluded to using pictorial elements, words, plot, etc. so that it's possible to express whatever it is you're trying to express very minimally.Jason Overbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06950447945934411203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post-53390332228316371422009-04-13T20:10:00.000-04:002009-04-13T20:10:00.000-04:00Actually, Mathieu, there is at least one comic of ...Actually, Mathieu, there is at least one comic of yours in the abstract anthology that could be called "syntactic" in the way you define it here: the one about the circle and the square talking to each other. That's the first piece of yours I ever saw (in a review of "Cidre et schnapps" in The Comics Journal), and I loved it. It was a real inspiration for me. I see no reason it couldn't be called "abstract" too--it's a wide enough umbrella term, after all.Andrei Molotiuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17400106944822618816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post-89708669623500062442009-04-13T18:28:00.000-04:002009-04-13T18:28:00.000-04:00yes!this is genius!it reminds me of minimalist poe...yes!<BR/><BR/>this is genius!<BR/><BR/>it reminds me of minimalist poetry, how so little can be used to gain so much, for example,<BR/>as in the poetry of <A HREF="http://vispoets.com/index.php?showtopic=21308" REL="nofollow">R Lax</A>, something can be said for "concrete abstraction" in that it creates within the viewer/reader a pause, like a deep inhalation, like a meditation.<BR/><BR/>this is excellent work,<BR/>thanx for posting it!troylloydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14706450196335510065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post-62591402301603260242009-04-13T03:06:00.000-04:002009-04-13T03:06:00.000-04:00Wow! Draw sent me over, and I'm very glad I came. ...Wow! Draw sent me over, and I'm very glad I came. <BR/><BR/>I *love* this!Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-899946063697780510.post-12648400098080524982009-04-12T15:34:00.000-04:002009-04-12T15:34:00.000-04:00Genius Mathieu --- as are your works!Genius Mathieu --- as are your works!Mark Staff Brandlhttp://www.markstaffbrandl.com/noreply@blogger.com